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Crank No Start 7.3 Power Stroke
March 9th, 2008 at 5:12 pm   starstarstarstarstar      

Help my 7.3 Power Stroke cranks but will not start.  So lets put down that can of starting fluid and figure out why it won't start instead of causing more damage.  The first step in a 7.3 no start is to simply check the oil level.  Yes the oil level.  Your engine could be low by just 3-4 quarts causing a hard start.  Unlike other diesel engines the Powerstroke has two oil pumps.  One to lubricate the engine components and the other to operate the fuel injectors. 

    Next lets sit in the driver's seat.  Turn the key on, does the "Wait to start light" come on?  If the light does not light up check the 30 amp fuse under the steering wheel.  This fuse will operate the fuel bowl heater and a power circut for the powertain control module.  A common 7.3 PSD problem is the fuel bowl heater shorting out under the fuel filter, which in turn blows the fuse. 

   Try and crank the engine.  If you have a tach guage does it move?  If the computer does not see a tach signal it will not turn on the fuel.  The truck must also crank fast enough.  If it is not cranking fast enough it won't generate a signal for the camshaft position sensor.

  Next step is checking glow plugs.  Generation one and two powerstrokes will vary in their glow plug control, but I will keep this simple.  On most PSD on the passenger side on the engine on top there will be a relay.  This relay has four terminals.  (note sometimes there are two relays next to eachother one is for glow plugs and one is for the intake heater.  Also on some models the glow plug relay will look like a mini control module.  do not go poking around on these wires it requires a different set of tests.)  Most PSD's have the 4 post relay.  One wire will have B+ all the time, across from it on the other big post this is the feed to the glow plugs.  The Two other terminals smaller in size, One is key on power from the ignition switch and the other is a ground controlled by the Powertain Control Module.  Verify That the relay is working.  Even if it makes a click noise, verify the relay has really switched power.  Now the glow plugs will need to pull about 180-190 amps when cold.  This is total for all eight glow plugs.  Yes that is alot of amps so be sure your battery and charging system is up to par.  When your truck losses one glow plug it will become harder and harder to start.  It is only a matter of time till all the glow plugs fail.  Can't see the glow plugs.  That's because they are located under the valve covers.  AAAhhh do not use starting fluid on a hard start.  If you have only 3 glow plugs working and you use starting fluid on it you are going to cause engine damage very quickly. 

  These are just a few 7.3 Power Stroke problems issues to keep in mind on a crank no start.

Posted in PowerStroke 7.3 by Jim Heintz
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Jim  says:
November 19th, 2011 at 6:54 pm   starstarstarstarstar      

Hello, Check your glow plugs.  The relay has 4 post on it.  One is B+ all the time (large stud)  the other large stud feeds the glow plugs.  Two small posts are key on power and the other is ground control.  Your glow plugs should pull 160-180 amps maxed out.  If you unplug the engine oil temp sensor on the back high pressure oil resivoir then take an amp probe and see how much the glow plugs are pulling.  The PCM will default and think the oil temp is -34 and turn the relay on for longer.  Much easier for testing I found. One bad glow plug on a PSD can cause a hard start.  It's your engine but you might want to consider using the block heater to warm your engine instead of putting starting fluid to it.  I have seen way to many PSD over the years in my bay with Customer has been using starting fluid to get it running now it won't run or has low power and smokes.  ohh just thought of something.  yours is a 95 gen. 1?  You should have two injector harness clips that plug in on each valve cover.  GEN 1 are famous for having the under valver cover harness burn up and melt,  The melting continues up into the main engine harness.  If you unplug and check them make sure its not burned up or you will have to repin the connector.  You can also ohm the glowplugs.  I believe no more than 5 ohms per glow plug.  And of course there is the old way to check it using your test light for a quick check.  Questions let me know. Sorry for the delay sometimes the diesel blog questions get routed right to my email and sometimes they don't.  Jim   

 

Rob shreds says:
November 21st, 2011 at 11:48 am   starstarstarstarstar      
 
 
petro says:
November 26th, 2011 at 5:50 pm   starstarstarstarstar      

what happen if the light to start truck dose not turn off? and heater relay buzzers dont stop buzzing

john says:
December 8th, 2011 at 12:30 am   starstarstarstarstar      

My 7.3 94.5 would not start it was plug in all night warm wts light was working had power to the glow plugs, and oil level was good. What els could it be cam censor? NO non of that  bad oil. Had 3500 miles on my oil and it would not start. Changed it and starts every time, just something to check out for on a no start. 

SHANE MCGREGOR says:
December 30th, 2011 at 12:00 am   starstarstarstarstar      

hi guys

got a 99 7.3 f250 wont start when cold or hot it will take a while when hot but will start.test everything hpop,cam sensor,icp sensor,fuel pressure put it up to 90psi,change idm,checked injectors,can start with start u bastard it still takes a while and then runs like crap on 4 to 5 cyclinders,tacho is not moving now can only start on help.i am a deiesl fitter but in Aus we dont have a lot of info

mark says:
January 14th, 2012 at 12:46 am   starstarstarstarstar      

i had trouble with my 2002 7.3 wont start so i fixed it pushed it in the weeds and bought a 5.9 problem solved

clayton chennault says:
January 24th, 2012 at 1:46 pm   starstarstarstarstar      

2001 7.3 f-450  had cutting out problems and dying problems. changed secondary pump.  seemed to do fine until 11 miles down the road then died.  The next morning started and ran perfect.  was told it was likely air in system.  drove 150 miles to try and get any air out and it ran perfect.  just now died and was hard to start and ran poor but would eventually achieve rpm and was driven home slowly without incident.  am told that the only thing left is the crank sensor.  anyone have this problem that can help.

dale mcalister says:
March 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 am   starstarstarstarstar      

i have 2000 f350 4x4 7.3 power stroke diesel and it wouldnt start had a code P1670 and i started it with starting fluid and it has been starting ok every since but i did notice it was leaking around the icp is this the problem or do i need to look some place else thanks

micah havens says:
August 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 pm   starstarstarstarstar      

i have a 1996 f350 powerstroke i was driving it the other night and i was getting close to a stop sign i slowed down my truck died and it will turn over now but will not fire up and i just recently bought the truck and im not familiar with the 7.3 desiel

keith cleveland says:
October 23rd, 2012 at 8:26 pm   starstarstarstarstar      

can you help? this is the problem im having . I have a 2001 f-250 7.3 and the problem is when parked nose-up on a hill it starts but acts like it runs out of fuel. Then it will roll over but never start back up without ether. If it sits nose-down or level it will start and run fine.

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